Labels: Environment, Politics, Social Justice
At 3/07/2007 10:36:00 AM, Portrait of Peter
It is indeed a thought provoking issue which is both disturbing and attaches the responsibility of we who inhabit God's earth.
Scotland has perhaps focused on recycling issues and it is encouraging to see more attention and responsibility by young and old with all kinds of materials.
We do have a responsibility to future generations and if we focus more on the environment in our every-day lives, it may encourage even more in society to do same.
A really interesting and stimulating blogg.
Thank you
At 3/07/2007 11:24:00 AM, Unknown
We recycle as much as we can. But one interesting comment one of the presenters made the other night was - if you recycle and think then that we are doing your part - stop. The products we have in our hand to recycle represent 5% of all the stuff that went into making that product - 95% is already waste. We need to put our efforts into changing the system... interesting thoughts
At 3/07/2007 04:15:00 PM, Mike Clawson
Yeah Amy, I remember up in Cadillac the only place to recycle were these big bins in the WalMart parking lot, but nobody ever used them.
Funny, but I think the Chicago 'burbs are even one step ahead of Salem. We have curbside recycling. We just put out our cans and glass and paper products with the trash and the recycling company takes it away for us.
But then, like Julie mentioned, recycling just scratches the surface of what's really needed to make a difference. The real challenge is to reduce our consumption. Personally I think this is important not just for ecological reasons, but for social justice and spiritual reasons as well. How can we justify consuming so many resources here in America, when so many others have so little? And beyond that, I tend to view consumerism as a disease of the soul. For our own spiritual health we need to disentangle ourselves from our enslavement to possessions.
(Not that I've done a great job of this in my own life yet... but I'm working on it.) :)
One idea you (Mike and Julie at least) may want to look into is starting a co-op. If you can get congregational support from area churches, perhaps it would not be too difficult to find a space that you could fill with bins of dried goods and various products to order in bulk. Reba Place has a food co-op that is open every Saturday morning. A lot of the stuff comes from distributors that are probably not MUCH better than Whole Foods, but the good thing about it is that packaging is significantly decreased, it encourages us to cook more whole and natural foods, AND we do grocery shopping in the company of friends, neighbors, and community-mates.
I don't know a whole lot about how our co-op first got started, but I'm sure there are people here who know and could give you some tips if you are interested. It also might be a good way to get enough buying power to buy directly from farmers or other places that require large orders (like buying a whole cow!).
The other little whisper that I'll make is that an easy answer to the great difficulty of finding ethical meat would be... to become vegetarians. I know it is a scary thought to most, but I have so many friends who have become vegetarians in recent years and I think most of them would say it was far easier than they expected. There are so many yummy veggie foods, rather than "missing out" on meat I think you end up trying and eating whole new types of food that are quite delicious.
Okay, that is my piece. I don't want to come off as forcing a vegetarian agenda or anything. Peace to you...
At 3/09/2007 06:06:00 PM, Unknown
thanks for the suggestions Tatiana. The coop thing is something I've thought about. I first need to find people out here that would want to do it too! Generally people I know just make fun of me or push the "cheapness is next to godliness so I don't have to be ethical if I'm saving a buck" agenda. So I'm working on baby steps at the moment.
It is a complex issue. We are now living in an area that takes more pride and ownership in the environemt. The thing that I am impressed with is how easy it is to recycle here. There are recycling centers everywhere--less than a mile from our house. We go there at least every other week. Everyone does it--recycling everything. Not just pop cans, but magazines, plastic bottles, newspapers, any kind of paper, any kind of glass, cardboard (like cereal boxes or whatever food comes in) etc. We didn't do this as much in Michigan (just recycled cans because youg et 10 cents for them) mostly because it wasn't encouraged and we had no idea where to go to recycle some of these items. Kind of poor excuse, but I think Oregon does a good job of encouraging it.